WTF Comics?

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura)
07/15/2014 at 22:41 • Filed to: None

First it was Marvel making Johnny Storm black in the next Fantastic 4 movie, then DC made Wally West black, and now Thor is a freaking woman!

Why must these companies completely change the appearance of these characters? I understand adding diversity, but why do they need to change existing characters? I'm most upset about Wally. He is a known ginger, and they even took it a step further by integrating a bunch of "street" stereotypes into his personality, changing the character in a major way.

Technically the new Thor is a different character, but once the character changes with Thor's hammer they change into Thor anyway, so it essentially will be just a gender swap.

I just want ginger Wally back guise...

DISCUSSION (26)

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 22:48

They gain Thor's powers, but they do not become Thor. Thor still exists as Thor, unless Loki gender swapped everyone like he does in mythology...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
07/15/2014 at 22:51

I thought when the little nerdy guy had the hammer he actually became Thor. He refers to himself as two separate entities I believe. I may be wrong though, its been a while since I dove real deep with Thor.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
07/15/2014 at 22:51

I would have respected that more, tbh - precedent. Also because potentially quite funny.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 22:56

That's how it was, then they retconned it that Donald Blake had always been Thor, just in disfavor/reaffirming his worthiness. Thus, I think I heard this storyline was him being stripped of powers and being temporarily replaced by a worthy chick understudy... or something. Which... how that works in the perspective of almost shifting it back toward the original model by the power riding with the hammer - it's kind of a CF.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 22:58

As long as they don't touch Deadpool...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull
07/15/2014 at 23:00

Apparently she's not getting his hammer, but one just like it. Or some shit like that. Of that's true, it will completely undo ~40 years of how badass Thor's hammer is in the Marvel universe. Like it's literally supposed to be the ultimate weapon, but then they're going to make another one just like it. That's pretty stupid if you ask me.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:02

As long as "old Thor" doesn't become some kind of nemesis, it'll only be gratingly stupid and not skullsplittingly. It's not the 90s, idiots.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
07/15/2014 at 23:03

They can't mess Deadpool up any more than they did for Wolverine...

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:04

Just like the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie, that never happened.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:05

Kinja'd!!!

They did actually engage in some totally barking mad Deadpool alternate universe team-up stuff. Dogpool, Kid Deadpool, Lady Deadpool, and Headpool...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull
07/15/2014 at 23:08

That would be ridiculous. If that happens, I'll have to become a movie-universe only fan. And I really don't want to have to do that.

But after they decided to make Doc Oc into Spiderman for a year, I can see it happening...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
07/15/2014 at 23:09

And Dragonball Evolution or whatever it was called.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull
07/15/2014 at 23:11

I'm fine with that. Alternate realities can be whatever they want. Like how Marvel did Miles in Ultimate Spiderman, I thought that was great. But changing characters is a slap in the face to existing fans.

Agrajag > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:14

This is the first I'm hearing of both the female Thor and that Wally West is black. I stopped with DC after the whole New 52 thing.

Kinja'd!!!

le sigh

Maybe the Thor thing is a some curse by Loki or something.

Kinja'd!!!

Now I want to re-read Earth-X.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Agrajag
07/15/2014 at 23:23

Unfortunately its not. And I need to give up on the New 52. Its only gonna keep hurting me.

Agrajag > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:26

Walt Simonson pulled it off pretty well when Beta Ray Bill got Stormbreaker.

Agrajag > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:27

I actually enjoyed that way more than I thought I was going to. And I thought I would enjoy it none.

Agrajag > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull
07/15/2014 at 23:28

Last I knew Donald Blake was an entirely separate person. But I dunno...

Agrajag > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:32

I gave it a shot for a few months, but the attitude and mentality by the editors and creators angered me too much. They should have just completely started over instead of having an undefined, half-assed established universe.

Dagget > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/15/2014 at 23:36

They already did that with Beta Ray Bill. His hammer's called Stormbreaker or something like that. He can pick up and use Thor's hammer, but Thor was still using it so they just made him another one.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Agrajag
07/15/2014 at 23:45

I didn't like it, but it was well executed.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Dagget
07/15/2014 at 23:46

I forgot about that. It wasn't very long-lived

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
07/15/2014 at 23:54

It's funny... I was sorting through my old comic books, and lo and behold...

Kinja'd!!!

Quattro-luvr, Powered by Datsun & Stinger > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/16/2014 at 08:02

I don't understand it either. I can understand ones like Nick Fury. But Wally not being a redhead is not right. If they're trying to racially diversify then pick a character that is the race you're looking for!

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Quattro-luvr, Powered by Datsun & Stinger
07/16/2014 at 10:33

Exactly. Instead of palette swapping existing characters, they need to refocus their franchises. Make Black Panther a more integral part of the Marvel universe. Give Cyborg his own comic for a while. Things like that.

Quattro-luvr, Powered by Datsun & Stinger > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
07/16/2014 at 11:39

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